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PMHoleInSky by pseudo-manitou PMHoleInSky by pseudo-manitou
Religion and faith have many uses, most of them WERE noble and gave cause for people to better themselves. Now, though, it seems many are twisting religion in order to make people afraid - to hold them to ancient ideals that serve no purpose other then to keep them away from issues of progress and change that scare those in power. These religious members are no better then witch doctors yelling at everyone to beg and give virgin sacrifice every time the sky thunders.
Like now - they claim homosexuals are evil... I remember when they said that allowing women equal rights would signal the end of the world - that flying machines were the devils work - that Africans were animals without souls and could therefore feel no real pain...
Are we ever going to learn to listen to reason and not to the fears of racists and bigots who claim to know god?
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anti-tanX Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2012
I knew there were at one time like essays and stuff explaining why black people weren't really people. I always consider that fact whenever I read ''logical'' arguments against homosexual marriage, and how they insist gay-lesbian rights are not at all like women rights or racial rights.

Part of me thinks we as humans revoked our entitlement to be prejudiced. Long ago, and many times.
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Prejudice is a funny thing -- it allows our brains to form categories so we can classify and organize everything we experience, so we do not have to relearn what everything is, or what similar items are. It's when these prejudices become rigid and unable to flex with new information that we become bigoted.

What this means... we'll never be rid of prejudice; it's ingrained in us all. But we could learn how to allow children to learn beyond rigid categories and how to remain flexible. I'm not completely sure of this -- studies suggest that some are, unfortunately, just have a genetic predisposition for inflexible reasoning.
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DoubleTailedLion Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2011  Student General Artist
Agreed
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TaylorWayero Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2010  Student General Artist
This is amazing.
And so inspirational.
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Phoenix667 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2010
wonderful!
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BetrayedAnguish Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2009  Student General Artist
This is beautiful. It's the epitome of what I've been trying to tell people all along, but in pure and simple language.

Do you mind if I use what you wrote on a page?

I'll give you credit of course -- whether you want your Devname or your real one. You can note me with it if you want to be anonymous about it. :)
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2009  Professional General Artist
You can take what I wrote, but I'd prefer instead of crediting me, you recommend others read a book I know too well: The Nature of Prejudice :)
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BetrayedAnguish Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2009  Student General Artist
I will do so!

You see, I've been having some heated debates with close people to me... Mainly, because I'm Pagan. Because I believe there is special power held within the Earth and all her beauties. What is so wrong in this?

What is wrong with homosexuality? If it is never "allowed," they can never be happy. How would people like it if they could never see their spouse out in public, never be married, never have children of their own, legally?

People make me sick sometimes. I intended to create a sort of website dedicated to this, to spread the word around.

And that book is on my bookshelf, LOL.
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RoseMage Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2007
It's strange to think of how many things could happen afterwards.

The man having climbed out could easily offer a hand back to his companion, and help him to climb out of the hole - in doing this, would the believer still be able to see god?

He could also just as easily bury the other man alive, something i wouldn't exactly approve of! Hah.

I like this. it's ambiguous enough for us to make our own choices, but with enough meaning for interpretation.
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jimmeh-white Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2007
love this
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jokirkpatrick Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2005
It's good to see views I can relate with. It's not easy living in the Bible belt where you're either a Christian or part of the Damned. I love the picture, truly.
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Frogon Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2004
its good...
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EsTur Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2004   Writer
But do we really know God? If we did, fear wouldn't be a factor...And yes, driving people by fear is wrong and so unlike God...
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SuketchiRyuu Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2004
poor humans...
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1o9 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2004
Your statement is most excellent, I full-heartly agree.
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harmonic-dimensia Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2004
Great message! But ask the man who left what his life means to him now that he's out of the hole...then ask the one who's still in the hole. Whose life will have real meaning? *sigh* I can understand your criticism of religion. But for better or for worse, human beings need to believe in some sort of God-like concept for their lives to have meaning. I'm a devout Christian who completely disagrees with the decisions Bush has made, and I also believe that gays/lesbians all over the world should have the right to marry in churches that choose to marry them (which is precisely what we've done in some provinces in Canada). The churches have defined marriage themselves; the State has no right telling them who to unite in marriage.
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ulos12 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006
I disagree with your conception that people need to believe in god to truly have meaning in their life. I am an atheist, and I have and am capable of having just as much meaning and happiness in my life as you are, and in some ways I believe more. I am living for myself and those around me, I am not living in the delusion that there is going to be this great life after I die which prevents me from living now. God is fine, and belief in him is fine too, but don't let that give you an excuse to not value life and what it's worth just because you have somewhere else to go after. The man inside the hole has found the message of god yes and may be more complete in your eyes because of it, but the man outside of the hole is still outside, he has the whole world in front of him to live in, to appreciate and to experience, while the man in the hole only has a hole, and god. Harbouring religion is one thing, but don't let it close your mind to the world around you, new experiences and new ideads and thought.
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harmonic-dimensia Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006
Phew, almost forgot I had written this!:P Don't think that living for those around you makes you different than a Christian is SUPPOSED to be (I'm not saying all Christians are...). Christians are supposed to consider all life (including one's own) sacred. Christians are also supposed to live in the servitude of all those around them. I imagine my life matters as much to me as yours does to you, as do the lives of all those around us! I didn't say anything about the man still in the hole being "complete"...but I think that man will probably be in a state of peace and happiness you could never find outside it. You'll probably disagree with me, being atheist...I don't think you and I will ever agree on that specific point. But, bottom life, when it comes to experiencing life...I get just as much out of it as you do...;) And if you think God is limiting to that, that's quite unfortunate because it's not the case at all. Those who use God as an excuse not to appreciate the fullness of life, or as an excuse for close-mindedness, are simply closed-minded and would be whether they believed in God or not. Don't let them *coughBUSHcough* be your archetype for a Christian.
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ulos12 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2006
Haha, yeah. It is nice to come across a christian that isn't close-minded every once in a while. I'm not used to them, which is probaly deluding my opinion in a paranoid way. Hahah, I live in Utah (which still supports bush.....slash cry) :/
I do appreciate that you took the time to respond though! Thanks. You comment claryfied your opinion more which was good cause I was confused. Anyway, much love <3
and on a side note, you have a nice gallery.
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harmonic-dimensia Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2006
I guess depending on where you are that can be hard to find...the nice thing about living in such a dominantly Christian region (for Christians, probably not so much for anyone else:P) is that you're always among people who understand your convictions; but then, Jesus himself hung out with all different sorts. You can sit home praying all the time...
sorry about my unclear commenting...
and thanks:D
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ulos12 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2006
Maybe, but don't forget, that completely surrounding yourself by people who share your opinion is a form of close-mindedness in and of itself. Because, in this case you're shutting out (whether intentionally or not) all of the other opinions that may challenge yours or may be different, thereby only allowing you one reality. Diversity is good. For that very reason, and it's the reason democracy works so well. The more opinions you allow yourself to hear and be ingulfed in the more knowledge you have and the more power and capability you have to make better decisions because you have more options and more information. It's also just good to get out and experience, listen to, and try new things! It boost creativity!! w00t <3
aaaah shit, I talk to much haha sorry doode :3
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harmonic-dimensia Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2006
I agree. That's why I mentioned the fact that Jesus hung out with most everyone; he calls on us to do the same. He says, God is in everyone...:thumbsup:
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2004  Professional General Artist
I understand faith and hope have a purpose, just consider this a piece against 'blind faith'... I guess.
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seboya Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2004
Well, first i saw the photo and liked it, then read the text on it and loved it, and finally I read the description and it really amazed me.
Congratulations and keep up the good work!
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wilbo Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2004
wow, this is a fantastic and stunning message. reading the deviation made me smile, but reading your description really moved me. i am a straight male, and i have always been in favour of gay rights, but this one took my breath away, very well done.
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lillycalin Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2004
Love it. great messages, you have a way with your words, of really getting the message across.
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kumochan Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2004
I love this. Definitely a favourite...and you know, what isn't ticking me off so much isn't that these people have their own beliefs, it's that they try to restrict me with them. Like a letter I got supporting the FMA-'children do better in two-parent homes' News flash, the kid is going to be in a two-parent home. My wife and I, married or not.
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cheshiresphynx Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2003  Hobbyist General Artist
I...love...this.

:+fav:

It has such great simplicity, but it's a great picture and point.
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Yoursolace Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2003
I realy love the message behind, One that I never realy knew how to convey. But then you come and do it with such simplicity... Im in awe
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lestismitethee Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2003
i know what you mean. but you must understand that the only ppl you ever hear about in the media are extremists... even if the religion itself is very peaceful. take judaism, for example. i'm starting to think most christian concepts are just to scare ppl, tho, and i was christian up until a few weeks ago, realizing this from my world religions class... but i still believe in God, just not in the christian way.

aie, enough rambling >_< hehe, i would go on, but i dun think you wanna hear meh religious rants now, neh? ^^;;

awesome piece!! - Gally
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StarDragger Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
I know what you mean. I'm like a friend of mine who's interdenominational. I take beliefs from what I believe to be true and maybe bits from other religions.
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phantomofnyc Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2003
i couldn't agree more with that! those who think they know, know very little hmm thanks for sharing, great work :bye:
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Nimil-Art Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2003  Hobbyist Digital Artist
beautiful. *fave*
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bluesindrag Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2003
God IS reason, they resoned, for no reason.
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mjukis Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2003
And then proceeded to laugh at the man still in the hole?
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2003  Professional General Artist
Not sure, either way - it wouldn't be productive.

However, there's nothing that says that other person couldn't climb out also and still believe in god. Better for that second person to help the first out of the ground, and allow them to live a higher existence complete with faith and hope.
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mjukis Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2003
It does not need to be productive. Just as you said in the description; that some people when they reach/find God they start trying to tell people how to live etc. That was just my interpretation of it. I'm not arguing with you, just saying what I saw. On another note I must say that I really enjoy many of your other works.
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krhainos Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2003
trew. +fav.
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un-satisfied Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2003
If only more would listen... or look up.
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tabbicats Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2003
Most valid point of view I've heard in a while. lol :) Excellent post.
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enn Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2003   Photographer
Jesus Christ.

There are no words. Every piece of your work has floored me somehow, and this is no exception.

:+favlove:
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badgercall Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2003
Amen, brother.

You make real spirituality worth it.
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dclxvi Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2003
great. :+fav:
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