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Opposable Thumbs by pseudo-manitou Opposable Thumbs by pseudo-manitou
Quote Carl Sagan: " It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese."

Humans are not so above animals as we'd like to think. We know this in our hearts, so we build up concepts such as the 'soul', dreams, emotions, higher consciousness -- and then deny that animals could possibly posses anything like them.

When scientific study blows that false reasoning out of the water, what will you use as an excuse to treat animals as property?
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Given 2008-02-03
Opposable Thumbs by ~pseudo-manitou defines a feature of anthro characters pretty well: They need those opposable thumbs! ( Suggested by inanna-nakano and Featured by cooley )
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Love it!
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Tektalox Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If dolphins could ever have thumbs and posess technology it would be something like this.
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:iconlordpatthethird:
lordpatthethird Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Student General Artist
If dolphins ever develop manipualtory appendages WE ARE FUCKED!
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:iconlordpatthethird:
lordpatthethird Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Student General Artist
I can speak dolphin!
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crymz Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2009
so cool instant fave
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JadedIguana Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2009
You do know that they breathe oxygen, right? XD

I'm pretty sure he doesn't need a water-bubble.
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:iconpseudo-manitou:
pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2009  Professional General Artist
That has been mentioned a couple of times. The illustration also has improper English grammar in use. That's not really an issue for me -- the design works as it is.

If you need to suspend disbelief, then associate the bubble with some device containing oxygen-rich liquid...
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JadedIguana Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2009
Could be thought of that way, but I think Oxygen-Liquid has a whitish tinge to it?

Either way besides that, I like it. :3


Great job. :D
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eklekt Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2009
Dolphins breathe oxygen, they're mammals... Water helmet makes no sense.
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:iconpseudo-manitou:
pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2009  Professional General Artist
...read previous comments and replies. The subject has been dealt with, and you are way too late to the party too spot something no one else has noticed.
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Szyg Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2008
This would make an awesome t-shirt..
I'd buy seven.
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GodsOnVacation Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2008
hes gonna drown!
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Blue-Toaster Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2008
I think we should treat animals with respect (exept insects, they dont have dreams/emotions/thoughts, thier puely instinct), although we are the ones who build this stuff, and dont tell me its only because of oposable thumbs because what about other apes?
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warren-thacker Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2008
cool. i like this.
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NakkiStiltz Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2008
AWESOME. Nice message there, too. :D
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VertigoSlice Featured By Owner May 31, 2008
Well, if this ain't just the bossest thing i've seen in ages. Love the style- love the color. Great message too.
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quikmasta Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2008
really like your style man,.

doubt youll get to reading this but what vector programs do you use?

iv dabbled with illustrator... and should probably do so more often.

ignore that ventager guy lower down(as you already did) =P iv seen him start fights with a lot of people here its quite fun.
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:iconpseudo-manitou:
pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2008  Professional General Artist
I read these :)

I use Adobe Illustrator too -- but I hand draw most of what I got, ink it, then use either Adobe Streamline or AI's new live-trace feature to convert my illustrations to vector.

This link should help describe the process to you:
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quikmasta Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008
cool thanks, i remember streamline from about 4 years ago, i expect its come on leaps and bounds since then. i think ill look into it .... and live trace ,thanks

=D
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:iconpseudo-manitou:
pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008  Professional General Artist
Adobe Streamline is long dead -- Adobe doesn't make it anymore :(

I have to use it on a laptop that can be reset to an older OS in order to run it.
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TheSearcher Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008
well dolphins is one of few creatures that pass the self awareness test to see higher thinking and us, dolphins, and chimps pass it's basically a mirror and we 3 pass cause we can look into the mirror and say 'hey that's me!' and not another human dolphin or chimp
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masamafo Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2008  Student
dolphins breathe air
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:iconpseudo-manitou:
pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2008  Professional General Artist
Good for you for having noticed that, but shame on you for not noticing all the previous comments that dealt with this topic.
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Feht Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2008
That, is truly awesome. And I totally believe it. Humans only 'rule' everything, because of out thumbs.
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GrandpappyDirt Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is awesome.
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ameritribe Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2008
brainy, i dig it.
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gargoyl3 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2008
didn't you forget a black box at the bottom? :P

nah, this is great, i really love the style and the colors, very fresh... and i love the dolphin's seemingly satisfied expression, like a sweet deserved revenge or something... gives an excellent narrative push to the concept!
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hoolai Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2008
lool. I love how it has a bomb in it's tail? nice. excellent work.
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MagicClaw Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2008
I'd make a counterpoint (Not because I disagree with you, but because I can) about the fact that animals in nature eat other animals and that could give us reason to domesticate livestock ~ For the purpose of readily available food. BUT then I would be saying that Humans should be eating fruit and bugs, as we are supposed to have evolved from apes, who eat fruit and bugs, correct?

The main reason mankind is "above" nature is because we have the technology ~ The tools to be above nature. We have livestock because mankind as a race has gotten into the habit of eating meat and other products produced by animals. But we do not need to eat meat, it is simply here for the comfort of society. We could eat fruit and vegetables and get on fine eating only fruit and vegetables, but a majority of the society has made a concious decision to eat meat. Just as we have chairs to sit on and TV's to watch, we have the choice of eating what we want to, because it is readily available to us.

So really, the domestication of animals and the slaughtering of livestock and so on is about providing to mankinds wants. We do not need to eat meat, but we would probably rather do so.
This probably made less sense than it could because I'm quite tired right now.

I'd also like to say that the composition of this piece is quite good ~ I especially like the trail from the jetpack- It sort of gives a sense of what direction the dolphin might be travelling in. Up.
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2008  Professional General Artist
Makes sense, I wish to add to it though -- only clarifiers:

1.We didn't evolve from apes, but we did evolve from the common ancestor as apes.
2. We barely understand the technology we use, hence problems with certain pesticides and antibiotics we feed to the livestock. The technology is not above reproach, and could cause us to destroy ourselves (though I believe this is unlikely).
3. Fruits and vegetables are not enough -- whole grains are the more natural staple of humans.
4. I do not believe eating meat is a conscious decision that people make. I believe they accept the conformity of a consumer culture that grew out of the fast food industry in the 1950s. And ever since then, as you can see from some of the drama here, they have been quick to attack those that call into question their lifestyle rather than question it for themselves and then re-define their choices. It's hard to believe that apathy could look so vicious, but here we are.

Anyway... if I get a response from a person that convinces me they ARE making that choice with current facts, then I relent. Veganism isn't for everyone to be sure.
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Keaze Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2009
I have a question...if vegetarianism is the natural lifestyle for humans, how come no culture developed to follow it?
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:iconpseudo-manitou:
pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2009  Professional General Artist
An interesting question...

Long ago, our ancestors began to migrate and search for food. This caused them to adapt and eat whatever could be eaten. To that extent, you can still see dietary differences in certain ethnicities today: most Asians are lactose intolerant, Eskimos maintain a healthy weight eating seal blubber -- but can't handle typical beef diets without heart problems, Hawaiians do fine on fruits more so than British -- but swell to the size of Sumo Wrestlers on meat, etc.

But where did that start? Why did it start? Why are some adapting and why are some still paying a heavy price for meat eating? That's a question anthropologists are still studying. They can't answer it, so I can't answer it. But you can't assume the question either.

Though, before meat consumption became common, Asians and certainly Buddhists seem to do well on diets centered on grains -- the so called sacred grains. But I bet Buddhism is not what you meant by 'culture'.

I'll grant you this -- in order to survive, people didn't turn away options if they could keep the food down. It was best to keep an 'open mind'.

But in this day and age -- survival of the species may depend more on efficiency. So... even if anthropologists give you the point -- I don't see a reason to abandon a more responsible lifestyle.
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Keaze Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2009
I think the problem is more in the kind of food they eat, rather than wheather they eat meat. My dad likes to mention pigs, saying that muslims simply can't consume pork because they stopped eating it a very long time ago. They're not used to it and their body can't take it. Just as black people are lactose intolerant, but white people aren't.
I guess buddhism could count if it was widespread enough among the general population (so that the whole countries survive on grains, not just priests or monks). You mentioned Hawaiians do fine of fruits...are they vegetarians or was their culture vegetarian prior to the arrival of foreigners?

My opinion on vegetarianism is that in the modern days it's really not necessary to kill or, god forbid, cause suffering to survive so I'm definitively supportive of vegetarians. I'm still unconvinced that humans are herbivores though I haven't really done any research on the subject. It's just the lack of cultures that don't feed solely on grains and plants that bothers me, if there were a few, okay, but how come there isn't a single one (that I'm aware of, at least)?
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Loucathwil Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Cat on the other hand...is a language I feel I'm quite fluent (sp?) in ;P
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shellpresto Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008  Student Traditional Artist
Amazing pop/graphic art piece. Love the detail. Also love the concept. I feel so much safer at night knowing I have thumbs.
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Kitsune-Notunai Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
Great message. I totally agree with you. >: It's sad how high and mighty us humans think we are because we can drive cars or use guns.

And really, i hardly find Christianity/Catholicism/Whatever else believeable simply because everything else is soul-less and dead to them except humans and God, basically. :/ But not the point here. :heart: Love the Cynicism~ Faved.
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xdangerkittyx Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
Yes! :+fav:

and I agree with you good sir 6_6
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SE-charlie Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
would love to see this as a shirt.
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Guerromal Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008  Student General Artist
While I disagree with you ideologically, I must say that this is an awesome piece of graphic design. The color choices, the sense of movement, the whimsy... all very nice. Just one issue: are the color boxes in the bottom left part of the design, or just for a demonstration of the colors used? I think they kinda draw attention away from the center and leave the image unbalanced.

But what do I know! Great work-good enough to make me waste 30 seconds writing this. :P
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008  Professional General Artist
They are the colors used, and I left them up so I could discuss with colleges various ways of cutting down that number of spot colors for producing a t-shirt of this design later.

You have to understand, I would have made a better presentation of this piece if I had actually thought this was even remotely worthy of a Daily Deviation.
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Guerromal Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2008  Student General Artist
Well, someone apparently liked it enough for a DD. Nonetheless, a great piece. hope you get a good grade/make some awesome tshirts. Kudos!
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hanarain Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008  Hobbyist Artist
omg its so true!!!
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ImaginaryPerson Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
Err.. >>;; My cat treats me like property.. She is the queen, I'm just a favored subject...
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hippieboy65 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
"So long and thanks for all the fish" is the phrase that comes to mind when I see this pic. Brilliant!
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dlgothv Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
Great piece, put it on a t-shirt!

Just to add my two cents to this fascinating debate, I don't care how many say people are the dominant predator on the planet. We're not. We are not the pinnacle of evolution, we are not the inherited masters of the world. Set us on a level playing field against any mammal predator, or put us out of our element such as open water, and we quickly learn our place in the food chain.

We are just a blip in the history of the Earth, and other creatures will still be here long after we are dust. And there's been scary evidence that when it decides, nature will reset the clock again and force us back to our proper place. The Mayans were wiped out, Rome was wiped out, and Europe was wiped out by the plague, and it will happen again.
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Artemsis Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
Remids me of an old sci-fi book called 'Startide Rising'. In the book, the intellegence of dolphines was greatly increased, and using a somewhat similar suit as shown here, and helped humanity out with oceanic construction and with scientific research.
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MasterOfPointillism Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
The artwork is great, but the discussion is better. Reminds me of Douglas Adams books. Thanks for the fish ...
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TodK Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
"When scientific study blows that false reasoning out of the water, what will you use as an excuse to treat animals as property?"

my excuse will be "they can't stop me."
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pseudo-manitou Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008  Professional General Artist
People like me can :)
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TodK Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2008
but you won't, because the people like me have all the guns and money.
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